Starter Pokémon from Diamond, Pearl, Platinum

Review Starters Turtwig, Chimchar, and Piplup in Pokémon DS Games

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Grass Starter Pokémon  Turtwig - Nintendo
Grass Starter Pokémon Turtwig - Nintendo
Choosing the right starter Pokémon is the first step to building a strong team to defeat the Elite Four and other Pokémon trainers. Stats, movelists, and more inside.

While most Pokémon players choose whichever Pokémon is liked most, choosing the right starter is necessary to building a successful team. While all starter Pokémon are typically powerful, choosing a starter that works well with a team, or catching other Pokémon that work well with the starter Pokémon, will create a much more powerful team.

Learn the stats, movelist highlights, and abilities of Turtwig, Chimchar, and Piplup - the starter Pokémon for DP.

Grass Pokémon Starter - Turtwig - Grotle - Torterra

  • Type: Grass (final evolution Grass/Ground)
  • Ability: Overgrow
  • Evolves into Grotle at Lv 18, and Torterra at Lv 32
  • Movelist Highlights: Leech Seed, Earthquake, Giga Drain, Synthesis, Crunch
  • Base Stats for Turtwig: 55 HP, 68 AT, 64 DF, 31 SP, 45 SAT, 55 SDF
  • Base Stats for Torterra: 95 HP, 109 AT, 105 DF, 56 SP, 75 SAT, 85 SDF

Note: If both Earthquake and Leech Seed are desired, Turtwig cannot evolve until Lv 30. If Turtwig evolves naturally, Leech Seed will be missed and Earthquake will be learned instead.

Final evolution Torterra is a beast of a Pokémon with quite a few options for effectiveness. Turtwig can learn strong attacks like Leaf Storm, Crunch, and Earthquake, and complement them by learning Sword's Dance through a TM. However, considering the (very) low speed stat, Turtwig works better as a tank, using Leech Seed and Giga Drain to drain HP, and Synthesis to heal when necessary. A combination of both works great too.

Turtwig's final form changes its type to Grass/Ground. Adding ground unfortunately hurts this Pokémon pretty badly, with a 4x weakness to Ice, and 2x weaknesses to Fire, Flying, and Bug. Resistances to Ground and Rock and an immunity to electricity help, but unfortunately do not offset the weaknesses.

Due to the crippling damage received by Ice attacks, the final evolution of Turtwig is simply not a reliable Water counter, since so many water types have at least one ice attack. Pokémon trainers who choose Turtwig as a starter should take note of this and make sure to bring along an Electric type for those pesky water Pokémon.

Fire Pokémon Starter - Chimchar - Monferno - Infernape

  • Type: Fire as Chimchar, Fire/Fighting as Monferno and Infernape
  • Ability: Blaze
  • Evolves into Monferno at Lv 14, and Infernape at Lv 36
  • Movelist Highlights: Mach Punch, Close Combat, Flare Blitz
  • Base Stats for Chimchar: 44 HP, 58 AT, 44 DF, 61 SP, 58 SAT, 44 SDF
  • Base Stats for Infernape: 76 HP, 104 AT, 71 DF, 108 SP, 104 SAT, 71 SDF

Starting with the movepool, Chimchar learns rather weak fire and fighting moves until later levels. Mach Punch, allowing Monferno to throw the first punch, is a great attack but doesn't have much KO potential.

Close Combat and Flare Blitz offer devastating power at the later levels, which turns Infernape into a powerhouse of destruction, but with frail defenses and low HP, Infernape must hope to smoke out Pokémon fast, otherwise death is certain. Sword's Dance (learned through a TM) can help immensely.

The Fire/Fighting type creates more problems than solutions. Weaknesses to Water, Ground, Flying, and Psychic covers quite a bit of common - and powerful - attacks (making the low defenses even more of a liability). But Fire/Fighting is strong against Steel, Dark, Normal, Grass, Ice, Rock, Bug (making the strong attack / special attack even more destructive).

Infernape is a Pokémon of extremes - huge attack power but frail defenses, crushing weaknesses, but numerous strengths. Pokémon trainers who choose Chimchar should try to catch a good offensive Pokémon to counter at least some of Infernape's weaknesses (Water, Ground, Flying, Psychic), and catch a few defensive/support Pokémon to hold the rest of the team together.

Water Pokémon Starter - Piplup - Prinplup - Empoleon

  • Type: Water (final evolution Empoleon: Water/Steel)
  • Ability: Torrent
  • Evolves into Prinplup at Lv 16, and Empoleon at Lv 36
  • Movelist Highlights: Brine, Drill Peck, Mist, Aqua Jet, Sword's Dance
  • Base Stats for Piplup: 53 HP, 51 AT, 53 DF, 40 SP, 61 SAT, 56 SDF
  • Base Stats for Empoleon: 84 HP, 86 AT, 88 DF, 60 SP, 111 SAT, 101 SDF

Empoleon has an excellent type combination, but unfortunately lacks a varied movepool to truly take advantage of it.

Before using Piplup/Prinplup/Empoleon, the user should choose between focusing on attack or special attack. Empoleon has a higher base special attack, and includes great attacks like Brine, and Ice Beam / Surf (through TMs/HMs). However, Empoleon can learn Sword's Dance through a TM to significantly boost attack and focus on the first-hitter Aqua Jet, and the powerful flying attack Drill Peck.

Remeber that Brine doubles in attack when the Pokémon is < half HP, and Piplup's ability Torrent increases water attacks when the Pokémon is < 1/3 HP. At low HP, Brine will pack a huge punch.

As far as typing is concerned, Empoleon's Water/Steel typing is only weak against Electric, Fighting, and Ground, with an immunity to Poison and resistances to just about everything else. Defensively speaking, Empoleon is sturdy against quite a few different types.

Empoleon, simply put, is hard to KO unless the other Pokémon has a Ground, Electric, or Fighting attack, which are all fairly easy to see coming. As a bonus, the Water/Steel combo nullifies a Grass weakness, and combined with either Ice Beam (TM) or Drill Peck, makes Empoleon a strong Pokémon to fight Grass types.

Build a team around Empoleon by focusing on a couple of strong offensive Pokémon. Empoleon may have staying power, but simply lacks the move-type variety and speed to make for an effective offensive Pokémon.

Starter Pokémon from Diamond, Pearl, Platinum - Conclusion

Choosing a clear winner between these three starter Pokémon is definitely a challenge. For Pokémon trainers who can work around the type weaknesses of Grass/Ground or Fire/Fighting, Torterra or Infernape can wreak havoc with powerful attacks.

However, due to the typing alone, Piplup's final evolution Empoleon is the most reliable and probably the best choice overall. While weaknesses to Fighting, Electric, and Ground can be a pain, the numerous resistances offered by the Steel type, along with immunity to Poison, makes it an effective type overall.

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Aug 8, 2009 12:40 PM
Guest :
this is a good starter team my opinion is your piplup/starly/riolu/
any elec type/ you decide .i dont have the gaame but this is just my opinion you dont need to follow other peoples opinion try watching videos or research its stats.it does not matter which starter you have you decide.choose wisely
Aug 8, 2009 12:46 PM
Guest :
im a pokemon freak
Nov 1, 2009 2:04 PM
Guest :
piplup is the best choice in my opinion. I've made it to the fourth of the elite four with a staraptor and an empoleon ONLY! and my empoleon did most of the work. it's also only level 5! either I'm a pokemon genius or empoleon rocks. (i have been playing since I was 6 or 7.) Either way, empoleon rocks!!
Dec 1, 2009 1:51 PM
Guest :
I chose piplup in diamond and turtwig in platinum. when I get SoulSilver, I will choose cyndaquil.
Dec 11, 2009 6:15 AM
Guest :
I chose Piplup Because i bet the elite 4 with it it is very strong though i used action replay but look: Empoleon lvl100 Moves: Thunder Fireblast Hydro Pump And Ice Beam so here is my team:Regigigas,Empoleon,Lugia,Mew,Charzard and Palkia
Jan 7, 2010 11:12 AM
Guest :
I chose Piplup, now Empoleon and it was definetly worth it. Good defense and attacks. For a starter team I'd choose some of these Pokemon:
Piplup/Shinx/Krickitot/Starly
Starly is a must have because it has great attacks and can use fly. Staraptor is a super strong, dangerous pokemon and easy to lvl up.
Jan 8, 2010 2:51 PM
Guest :
Yeah, piplup IS the best. I should know. I beat the game alot of times, and I only picked piplup as the starter. I tried the others, but I hated using them, so I stuck with piplup.
Feb 15, 2010 11:04 AM
Guest :
good advise but i still will pich chimchar a because power but with the right nature and attitude it will be a power house but i usualy will trade in the other 2 guys to have a rounded team i like the legendaries so i usualy have diagla or palkia and rayquasa
Feb 23, 2010 9:57 AM
Guest :
turttwig is the best hes a beast when torterra ive beat the game two times with turtwig hope this helps u decide
Mar 7, 2010 7:41 AM
Guest :
this was very very very helpful cuz i played platinum before and used turtwig but i couldnt beat the game! so now im gonna try to use piplup and c what happens
Apr 14, 2010 8:26 PM
Guest :
I havent played the game yet but when i do im most likely going to pick turtwig. im not that fond of fire types or monkeys so chimchar is out piplup is ok, i like water types but its not really my kind of pokemon turtwig is really cool grass types my favorite type of pokemon. one thing i find interesting is that people work best with pokemon that they the like. this is just my opinion but i think its best to pick a pokemon that you like rather then a pokemon that people suggest. I wish you the best of luck on your pokemoon journey!
May 12, 2010 1:02 AM
Guest :
turtwig=best piplup=farts
May 29, 2010 7:21 AM
Guest :
Why do you ask a matsh question? I chose infernape but i also got torterra and also empoleon to face the elite four, torterra has an advantage againts ghost and physic type pokemon because it learns bite and crunch along the path of leveling up i cheacked the three pokemon stats and infername is the best and then empoleon and finally torterra
May 31, 2010 3:03 PM
Guest :
Chimchar that's all you need to beat the the elite four. That's what I did and my infernape was only at level 69.. Lots of full restores though .
Jun 4, 2010 3:47 PM
Guest :
turtwig and piplup are good chimchar sucks
Jul 31, 2010 9:14 AM
Guest :
boo turtwig pwns I can destroy everything with my lvl 100 torterra!
Oct 3, 2010 11:05 PM
Guest :
The pokemon you should choose is what you want:
Attack and Defense: Turtwig
Attack, Sp. Attack, and Speed: Chimchar
Sp. Attack, Sp. Defense, and good resistance: Piplup
Nov 1, 2010 2:00 PM
Guest :
Great article. But I still can't pick a starter. Piplup is great, but is hard to get throgh the gyms with, while Chimchar is easier to beat numerous gyms. Turtwig is sort of in the middle.
Nov 9, 2010 2:27 PM
Guest :
Um...................Well you know, Empoleon atually suffers more than you think. It is actually pretty slow, on the other hand Infernape is fast, and can learn moves to destroy it's weaknesses, shadow claw, thuderpunch etc.
Nov 24, 2010 9:30 AM
Guest :
I think Piplup is the best starter pokemon because it can learn water, ice, steel, normal, ground, fighting, ghost, rock, flying, dark, bug, and poison type moves when it becomes Empoleon. It also has the best stautes out of all three. I've tryed playing with Torterra before and it wasn't very good.
Nov 25, 2010 8:06 PM
Guest :
Piplup is definitely a good choice as its balanced in its stats.
but,for beginners i would definitely recommend chimchar. As it is stronger and easier to battle
CHEERS
Dec 21, 2010 2:27 PM
Guest :
infernape has very good speed. close combat + speed = empoleon (steel/water) goes BYE BYE!
Jan 1, 2011 8:26 PM
Guest :
thanks for the comments!!!
Jan 6, 2011 2:19 PM
Guest :
it is good and true
Jan 26, 2011 9:40 AM
Guest :
not nice
Apr 1, 2011 2:26 AM
Guest :
fire beats grass, grass beats water,water beats fire. so there no poke'mon is the best.
Apr 8, 2011 10:41 AM
Guest :
awesome thnx 4 the help :-))))
Apr 13, 2011 1:03 PM
Guest :
Turtwig is the best by faaaaaar. He has the highest atk and def, and torterra looks awesome! Second is piplup. he is pretty good, and empoleon is great. He has lots of resistances and can learn good moves, just like Torterra. Chimchar and his evolutions STINK. It took me 2 weeks to beat platinum with him. Why is the stupid computar saying turtwig is spelled wrong!!!!!!!!
Apr 24, 2011 4:25 PM
Guest :
i think you people should make a b/w one bkuz i knat figure wat won 2 get
May 29, 2011 7:30 AM
Guest :
this is great info i was thinking of having piplup, machop, starly, gibble, +2hm pokemon bidof and tentacurl
May 29, 2011 11:29 AM
Guest :
i beat pokemon platinum with an empolean, garchomp, staraptor, machanmp, and alakazam
Oct 8, 2011 9:30 AM
Guest :
puplup is retarded my level 100 empolean can freeze everything with ice beam!!
Oct 8, 2011 9:51 AM
Guest :
i beat the elite 4 with infernape Lvl 100 thats all (this is my team ::Empolean Lvl 100, Palkia Lvl 98,Dialga Lvl 96,Giratina Lvl 100, Darkrai Lvl 97,and Arceus Lvl 98!!! Its hard raising them over Lvl 70, any way Arceus is the strongest pokemon in Pearl! I started off with chimchar.Its your chose to start off with one of these pokemon,Turtwig,Chimchar and Piplup!
Mar 28, 2012 3:00 PM
Guest :
empoleon is beast
Mar 30, 2012 9:26 PM
Guest :
infernape ROCKS!!!
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